0:05 oh okay got it Hi how are you 0:11 you're uh not coming through for some reason 0:20 um maybe I've got the wrong uh let me see where my audio is to uh 0:29 now I hear you fine okay okay your your uh video is is not moving or anything 0:35 well I thought I'd save on bandwidth because I didn't have anything to show you you wanna oh okay yeah you know 0:42 you're the one who's going you can see me yeah yeah okay I see you fine 0:52 okay um let me turn off that music 1:09 that's pretty this this is good we got at least we got connected oh yeah 1:15 yeah then next step will be sharing windows or something like oh recording 1:20 so are you recording no I'm not recording my says mine says 1:26 I'm recording so I guess I'm recording yeah yeah it said recording in progress 1:32 uh you don't really need to record anything I don't think well you wanted you wanted to test okay uh uh 1:42 what uh you you have written a letter on uh 1:47 the uh how you wanted to present this 1:53 uh what's the best method for presenting what I need to present 2:00 well I can't remember that letter um what I was thinking of last night is I could start a um 2:07 a space on quora and if you want to it's optional because 2:14 you'd have to pay for it would be advertising to bring in more traffic I'm doing that with a space I started on 2:21 quora contest a Challenge 100 watt light bulb Challenge and 2:26 I'm limited in funds so I have to do the minimum expenditure of five dollars a 2:31 day right is there a uh is there a on your deal where it doesn't cost anything 2:37 to advertise to do this well it doesn't cost anything to start a space 2:43 right so okay let's do that let's not let's not because you know if it doesn't go anywhere that way then then there's 2:50 no reason to spend money for nothing yeah that's true 2:56 yeah mostly I think all my ad is doing is getting visibility and I figure 3:02 that's a gain because at least I want to plant the seed in people's brains even though you know it's not going anywhere 3:09 right well that's the way this seems like it is I I send out these uh emails to people and there's really no feedback 3:16 at all well you know I I didn't I have to admit when you when you came to me I I was 3:23 clueless over what you were doing because I don't have any I didn't I I don't have any experience in 3:30 simulating it and I certainly don't have any experience in building magnetic style circuitry 3:36 right last night looking over it I managed to find some correlations or 3:44 similarities in converting certain parts of your diagram see the other diagrams you showed me I can't make any sense out 3:51 of them but the one you sent me recently the assembly drawing makes sense because 3:57 it's simply how to put it together and the parts um maybe it's different than the other 4:03 diagrams you sent me over about a year ago but it it makes sense to me so that 4:09 at least I can partly understand what's going on and appreciate what's happening 4:14 but it's it's hard for me so you gotta bear with me because I I don't have anything to refer to and I think that's 4:21 the problem with most people when they look at our stuff they don't have anything to refer to right well I've got 4:26 the motor here um there's the motor 4:33 now that's exactly the way your assembly drawing says you built it other than this Fielding this is let me 4:42 see so that's a coil right there let me get some light more light on it 4:51 but I mean it's got two copper plates and of course here's a coil here 4:57 let me get it a little higher so it's a little easier to see 5:10 hopefully my computer doesn't fall on the floor 5:16 okay so could you see that well sure I can see it like before 5:21 um okay so basically here's the coil here and then there's a uh 5:29 there's another coil on the other side there's two coils oh so that's drawing only pertain to 5:36 that coil bowling pertains to this coil of how to assemble just this coil uh the 5:41 motor I got drawings for the motor too but I didn't I didn't send that well you sent me drawings like eight or nine 5:48 months ago that was probably not of this motor this is this was uh okay uh built in 5:56 um test it was it was built and tested in December 22. 6:01 right yeah yeah that's when you sent me drawings okay 6:06 and also in the spring of uh was it oh I wasn't it the spring of last 6:13 year and then December of last year could be yeah so uh so anyway what this what this 6:21 voter does is it's just basically a uh 6:27 an induction motor so it's it's just basically it draws it into iron so this spins like this pulls it in 6:35 to an iron plate let me see if I can show that so you don't power this it 6:43 just spins oh so it's uh it basically it runs on 35 6:49 Watts and uh I'm using the friction of the bearings to calculate how much power it 6:57 actually produces so the so what I do is I I did a pull test on this shaft here and I could 7:03 calculate that it takes about um 3.32 7:11 uh foot well let's see that yeah 7:16 three two pounds per foot of travel so if it travels at a certain speed a 7:22 certain RPM it'll produce a certain amount of wipes it takes a certain amount of watts to produce that so uh let me just turn it on for a 7:29 second it's kind of neat to watch do you have to wait on this uh power supply here 7:37 and uh are you making contact with the motor 7:44 using uh you scraping two wires across yes there's brushes here there's brushes 7:50 on both sides and a commentator on the the wheel this will all be shown later I'll show you all this in a you know in 7:56 drawings later we just want to just this is basically this correct just a show and tell thing 8:11 how much boost do you get with that magnetic shielding covering half the diameter or circumference what's that 8:18 how much boost do you get with that shielding covering half the circumference 8:24 I'll happen I I stopped um 8:30 oh it's making noise I don't hear any noise 8:39 right now it's running 641 RPMs okay 8:50 and it's running on about 85 Watts maybe 90 Watts 8:59 okay so right now it's running on 90 Watts it's running at 600 and 9:10 686. I'm going to turn it off 9:15 okay yeah I'm curious what those bolts are surrounding the circumference what's 9:23 that the bolts are those positions for future coils if you wanted to put on 9:28 more coils yes yes but it's what it was is this was a uh I already had this uh 9:35 the centerpiece for another motor and there's 22 of those those bolt so they 9:40 don't really line up to do anymore if you're going to do yeah it doesn't really work for anything I have to make a new uh a new um 9:48 right 9:53 so I just make another Hub if I was wanting to do a a different uh motor anyway so the uh 10:00 that was that was running on about 90 Watts 10:05 and the uh running at 680 RPM 10:13 I'm going to do the calculation on that real quick 10:18 that's uh 0.32 [Music] 10:25 times 6 80. 10:31 divided by 550 times 746 10:37 that was produced in 295 Watts just then not bad so running running on running on 10:44 90 watts to produce 295. that's three to one that's not bad yeah three point two two eight to one 10:52 uh-huh so that's what so you put energy in to 10:58 get it started and then you've got a mechanical energy and then you've got electrical energy uh keeping it running 11:03 well the the electrical liturgy part is just basically energizing the the magnet 11:10 that's there to a greater point so it but the uh the electrical energy 11:15 is not pushing the motor it's the it's the permanent magnet that's actually pushing the motor so you mean you're 11:20 using electrical energy to um what do you call enhance the magnet uh the 11:25 permanent magnet so without it it'll still run oh yeah well it without the electrical 11:32 part no because it it uh the magnetic uh energy that's there the permanent magnet 11:39 energy only is only as much as a a normal coil would be 11:45 but the other side is also on so there's there's as much 11:51 um input as output it's even when it's off it's even oh but when it's on one one coil is on 11:59 four times uh and then the other one is off 12:05 so the a regular a regular coil produces one when you energize this type of coil 12:11 you get four and then the other side is actually reversed and turns off 12:17 so you got input of four output of zero you know if you were and basically so 12:22 it's like it's like um if you were have the magnet going to iron it would stick and then you turn it 12:28 off and release turn it on sticks turn it off at release but it's going in a circular so you have 12:35 two magnets one is being pulled in at four times the other one is turned off not you know uh 12:41 giving no back EMF this has full EMF four times this as zero 12:47 okay so between the two coils you have this the each each coil was running on 12:52 45 Watts so it's 90 Watts total so you're still getting a gain even with 12:57 the electrical power off because I mean in terms of what convention dictates if it's even Steven Universe yes yes yes 13:07 so that's still pretty good yeah you know it's a neat system I mean it's 13:13 that it's uh what I was originally trying to do was to just turn the magnet 13:18 off is turn the permanent magnet off using the coil but then when I uh energize it the other way and got that 13:25 much power output it's like oh wow okay it changes the whole thing 13:31 um do you have any um you know it would be nice if you had a video that you recorded of of constructing it 13:39 so that you that's a viewer could see where all the parts go or you know I have I have a breakdown 13:45 photographs of the whole thing oh okay so it could be I'll say that again all right we can make a slideshow out of it 13:56 um yeah because I'm curious what the internal structure of the thing is but okay so that'll be I will uh after this 14:04 I will get a whole uh package of those things together and send to you okay 14:10 um so basically the design works very simply it's just there's only two magnets on at a time if you had if you 14:17 had 20 magnets on you'd still only have two at a time you'd have one that's full power and one 14:22 that's off but the but being so the uh the watts would never be over 90 on this 14:29 thing but because of the constant uh they're they're the constant draw into 14:35 the uh induction field the output would be like uh 2 14:41 000 Watts something like that for 90 watts in that 90 Watts doesn't change on 14:47 this particular one because there's so much distance between the magnets um 14:53 you have two only two magnets running if you had all the magnets around there it would be like uh every time the 15:00 magnet came into the position to be on you would have torque you see you you see what I was saying 15:07 there barely um well it's yeah it's okay don't worry about it but there's a lot to 15:14 explain that's part part of what this is all about is getting all this explanation down so everybody understands it well it is a little bit 15:20 hard to wrap your mind around the first time let me take a guess then the court if you had more coils 15:27 then the ones that are not engaged at any particular time they're not 15:33 as if they're not there because they've got reactive power stored in them right yes they're they're it yeah they're if 15:40 they're not on they're not doing anything but they're not drawing anything either but they but their energy they're pre-energized with 15:46 reactive Powers so it's not like they're useless when they're there well they're only they're only useful in 15:54 that time frame right which they're being drawn into the induction oh oh I see so no the gain would be having them 16:01 is that you don't have to wait as long because you're losing exactly exactly you don't have the uh the percentage is 16:08 360 rather than just two it's like if you had two gears turning 16:16 and this gear here produced one horsepower the uh the exchange of that one horsepower is only on the one gear 16:23 but if you have a multitude of Gears there's always being exchanged of that one horsepower and that's kind of how 16:29 this it acts it's acting like a gear or a single gear that's that's being turned 16:35 and on the other side there's no uh resist there's no back resistance because it's off and this one here has 16:42 full power to push so now I it's it's stimulating an idea a suggestion a 16:48 scenario uh what if you only have one coil that you have to use because you're 16:54 only using one coil right at a time so you only need one coil well you still 16:59 have to turn the coil on and then you have to turn it off when it goes out it's like if you're uh 17:05 whatever goes down has to go back up okay so going back up there's no it has 17:11 no weight all right sitting down it has four times the weight going back up it has zero oh so you're relating that to 17:17 gravity then like well yeah well in this point yes okay so if two coils are the minimum 17:23 but you gain Advantage by having more positions yes and it doesn't draw any 17:30 more amps I mean anybody wants by doing no it wouldn't you're right because you only need two coils to operate it so yes 17:37 what if it could be possible I don't know if it's possible what if it could be 17:42 possible if um kind of similar to uh bouncing light around using mirrors you know you go 17:49 around one of these uh Scopes you use when you're a kid to look over the edge of a of a of a horoscope yeah yeah a 17:57 periscope so you've got these mirrors reflecting so what if you had the coils in a different position more closer to 18:03 the axis and you could shuttle the magnetic force from those coils down and 18:11 then out the position you want to when you want it kind of like a commutator situation right well there there's uh uh 18:19 millions of different possibilities using this technology so yes that could be one of those so then you could put in 18:26 as many of these uh in um ghost or uh or 18:31 whatever coil uh magnetic shootings that you would want to get the 18:37 extra gain and still only have two coils and so you wouldn't well yeah limited by 18:43 your Dimensions the construction you could have as many as you want well instead of turning the coils you had a 18:49 multitude of induction Fields yeah yeah so the the the coils would be single in 18:56 the uh the coil the rotor would I mean the field would be rotating yeah a 19:01 multitude of fields yes I thought of that too okay 19:06 wow and actually that increases the if you was to use both coil and that the 19:13 horsepower would increase incredible yeah yeah of course you'd get so much out of it yeah yes 19:20 and but the uh the thing is is that the uh coils if they're if they're not being 19:26 shut off they heat up you know how a coil a regular coil that's just if you just have a magnet 19:32 hooked up to a battery it just heats up yeah yeah so so if you don't shut them off for a duration of time they will 19:39 heat up the other uh way to do this is just have them water cooled just yeah 19:44 Tesla did that with his motor he water cooled it right okay 19:49 and I thought of that too um but yeah there's uh lots of ways to 19:56 get a uh lots of horsepower out of this oh okay and you still you know and the 20:02 the best part about this is that you're only putting in one quarter of the Watts 20:07 that you get out you know at the minimum say that again 20:14 uh the percentage the rate for the maximum could be a thousand to one 20:21 you know input output okay but you lost me on the quarter 20:26 oh um the uh the uh 20:31 when you uh put the watch to a single coil it puts out four times more energy 20:37 than a normal coil oh this specific design I see this specific design right 20:43 any coil will do that I mean any anyone you know it doesn't make any difference how small or how big the um the coils 20:50 are they basically put out four to one to a to a normal coil 20:56 oh um yeah that that design of that coil intrigued me um 21:01 is there um I can't remember oh yes so the similarities intrigues me 21:08 because it looks similar to what I've been dealing with recently the uh two copper 21:15 um discs are basically a low inductance coils 21:20 they're a single Loop of wire with uh a fairly good gauge right right but those particular um 21:28 items are just to hold the wire from uh escaping well but 21:33 did you have you tried plastic versus copper to see if there's a difference no I did I wasn't interested I figured 21:40 the copper would be fine but I'm using it for strength also because this thing is actually turning and uh producing uh 21:48 torque pushing the trying to push the copper coil you know off the coils well I I think it's contributing and of 21:54 course the map could be the magnet I think is a is to me the permanent magnet 22:00 is analogous to a full diode Bridge feeding a capacitor because it's forcing 22:05 a DC situation that's kind of static it just builds up power and then holds it I 22:12 mean is that I don't know I I I don't know if the discs are doing that or not 22:17 uh I haven't done that experiment because what if it would be what that would imply is that you've got voltage 22:24 stored in the coil that never is spent you're just borrowing the voltage but 22:32 you're not spending it yeah that's sort of like what's happening yes 22:37 which is say what what simulators trained me to do is to think about voltage and current as separate issues 22:44 and you got to deal with them separately and you can't just deal with them together so I would deal with the 22:50 voltage as a borrowing condition and then get my current elsewhere because I knew I would have to spend it so it 22:57 looks like that's what you're doing you're dividing your the various tasks so that you can get the over Unity that 23:04 you want otherwise people don't know that over Unity is slightly complicated it's not like rocket science but it's 23:10 not right I I this is really not over Unity uh because it's uh it's using the 23:19 uh only the energy and the magnet which is uh not going over what it is 23:26 you know it's actually unity in but using a permanent magnet source as the unity 23:32 Well yeah if you if you're only considering the permanent magnet but you've also got the electric power to 23:37 consider right but I don't want to call this over Unity at all I'd rather keep away from that no I don't I don't blame 23:44 you some Kaiser you know yes I I don't want to call this that's why I changed it to ettcm oh yeah get away from 23:51 perpetual motion and over Unity so what is that rep acronym represent 23:57 uh energy to torque conversion motor okay yeah well see I forget the guy's name he 24:05 was down in New Zealand I think who did a a magnet motor and he got he shot away from over Unity as well 24:12 yeah well these aren't these aren't over Unity Motors if you're using if you're taking the permanent magnet and using it 24:18 as a propellant you're using it as just like like it would be a fuel 24:24 it's not it's not creating more power than it than it has well it's not exact 24:30 it yeah it's fuel but you're not spending it that's the advantage 24:35 right right but yeah yeah it's not it's not going away but you're also not creating more than it is 24:41 okay so you just reuse it and that's that that itself is a humongous 24:46 Advantage right there oh yeah yeah well it's like it's like the sun you know it's it's not going anywhere yeah Jim 24:54 Murray and Paul Babcock they managed to put their two heads together to create a condition in which they 25:02 reused reactive power so efficiently that they got something like a thousand to one game 25:07 that they claimed if everybody did this in their home meter or on the on their side of the meter they were quoting Tim 25:15 Murray was quoting Tesla I don't know I never heard of this before but if everybody had their system and it was a switching system involving switches and 25:21 capacitors bouncing the reactive power back and forth in-house to get a thousand to one gain because 25:28 they were reusing the reactive power over and over again so I guess if you had inductive loads in your home you'd 25:33 there'd be an advantage right right but you'd have to have it set up to do that so it's um yeah they 25:41 they ran a demonstration I I went to the conference where they had the demonstration and they were lighting a 25:46 light bulb um with a certain gain I can't remember how much it wasn't that much but they 25:53 were drawing power from the outlet on the wall outlet and they got a gain out of it simply because they were reusing 25:58 the reactive power so for right permanent magnet and you're reusing it that's again already 26:06 yes but I still want to keep away from over Unity no that's fine oh I know people turn off with the 26:14 minute they hear that they don't want to read any further all right well like I said what this is 26:20 doing is this is taking the uh the charge of a permanent magnet and just basically using that power it doesn't 26:27 make any difference how long it lasts but you're still only using that amount of power but you well would you be want 26:34 to go so far as to say that you're reusing that power no you're just using it you're not 26:40 reusing it you're just using it what I think a magnet is is a a centrifugal 26:45 force uh once you get it started it it just keeps going like gravity 26:52 that's why I I also have another term called Magna gravity all right so now what how do you relate 26:58 magnetism to gravity um or is that they both blend for a very 27:04 long time and don't use any power to do so yeah okay 27:11 actually both gravity and magnetic are not energy they're not considered energy they are 27:18 considered Force uh the energy is what the magnets do they take a uh the iron and they get it 27:24 moving that's energy is that magnetomotive Force 27:29 well it's like in in gravity uh when what gravity itself is not energy but 27:35 the water that it takes when water starts moving that's uh kinetic energy 27:40 uh so what it is is the water is potential energy once it becomes moving 27:46 then it's kinetic energy but the gravity itself is not energy it creates the energy okay I can appreciate that is is 27:53 the magnetic uh force magnetomotive force is that what that is uh Magneto force is 28:02 um you you take uh you have to have 28:07 power to run the Magneto to get the power out Oh you mean an electromagnet right well 28:14 Magneto was basically just a magnet running over a coil 28:20 that's a Magneto isn't that what you have here no 28:27 don't you have magnets on the shield is that what you have on the shield two magnets I got magnets on the shield but 28:33 they're balancers when it is to balance the load what does that mean what I 28:38 don't understand oh well I have I have um the the output isn't exactly correct 28:43 because it's overpowered slightly so I had to reverse it slightly to get it to uh not be pulled back in on the counter 28:51 reaction side the action site is the four times the counter reaction side to be zero because I've overpowered the 28:58 coil slightly it wanted to be drawn back into the magnet because it actually went past reverse it went past zero 29:05 uh actually uh it turned the magnet off and then turned the electromagnet on slightly to to make it uh the 29:12 electromagnet part draw back in so they're just a balance if he was running it perfect the uh 29:19 input would be four times and the output would be zero 29:25 I'll show that on a drawing should I send you so you're not 29:30 using the magnets as breaking magnets are you no oh some kind of these are you talking 29:37 about the woods are you talking about uh these bag that's here on the side yeah 29:44 yeah yeah they're sticking out there yes those are just balance they're just for for balancing the uh the input output 29:52 um mechanism see when it when this magnet goes in here this one here goes in it's on that's full full power when 29:59 this one here comes out it should be zero but it because I overpowered it slightly because I didn't have the 30:05 correct voltage to use uh it actually reversed and tried to draw back in 30:11 backward it was actually operating backwards so I put a little balance magnet here pushing against it on the 30:17 way out so that it Smooths out the uh rotation it Smooths it out right I'm getting I 30:25 go ahead give that by just uh checking the speed output and just adjusting them 30:30 a little bit backward and forward to get the highest RPM I've got a um notice 30:35 here telling me to pay the money if I want to go over I've got 10 minutes left remaining I'm 30:42 I'm limited to uh 30 or 40 minutes I think right I got that same thing this 30:47 is fine this was just a uh a test meeting so okay they covered a lot this 30:53 is good yeah um what else can be said about it 30:59 um because I don't know enough to ask questions really right well I I'm also talked you know uh 31:05 George Wyman George Wiseman of um Eagle research no 31:11 okay I'm talking he's from New York he's got it also he's also worked in this for 31:16 many many many years he does um different things he does uh 31:23 Brown's gas um generators and things like that 31:28 anyway I've been talking to him and he's also confused but uh yeah so uh he's asking me 31:35 questions so I can come up with answers uh so I'm working with you and him he 31:41 also has a a large uh audience that he's uh communicates with 31:47 I think it would help me if I built it but how much do you know what your expense was in building this particular 31:53 unit well I build things myself so uh and I 31:59 get a lot of parts for free so the only expense I had really was the 32:05 wire and the magnet everything else I had so probably I spent 200 Max 32:12 oh but it would be more if I had to get everything from scratch yes yes but I have my own shop I have my own Fab shop 32:20 um in my yard which is a 40 by 70 which I have everything I have shears and 32:27 welders and rollers and everything oh yeah I've got a total patch I I set 32:33 myself up in life to do this this is my my gold project I see okay I'm not going to manufacture these 32:40 things that's I'm just a researcher yeah yeah um yeah that would help I think in 32:47 understanding if I had a working model that I had to put together myself you know yeah that's that's 32:54 difficult if you don't have a Fab shop well expensive if you have somebody if 33:00 you Outsource it oh yeah definitely I mean if I was the house or this is probably five grand oh okay that's good 33:07 to know um yeah yeah Outsourcing is really expensive uh 33:12 there's no way to further scale this down to a toy size that would uh be 33:18 cheaper uh yeah you could um but this is what I had just to work 33:24 with so I did this all right and uh I had another guy uh in Australia 33:31 which was a uh he was a SolidWorks engineer and I for some reason he he did this 33:39 lost contact with me I haven't been able to contact him so I don't know what's happening there he was I actually sent him everything to 33:46 develop a uh SolidWorks uh simulator 33:51 I don't know what does that mean SolidWorks well SolidWorks is a program that you can put in all of the 33:57 components and it'll work in real time oh the materials of construction yes 34:03 yeah so you can do all computer animation of this thing but it's not just animation it's actually does you 34:09 know you can put in all the magnetic uh field intensities and all the uh um 34:14 inductions and everything and it will show it'll actually run in real time and tell you exactly what's happening and 34:20 you can change the the uh components to whatever you want well that actually have to build the 34:25 thing so that's the name of the product do you know the name of the company uh SolidWorks if you just look it up but 34:32 it's a very expensive program well I'm sure ansys has something similar I think and yeah it's there's there's several 34:38 different ones yes okay yeah I kind of dream or wish I could do something like that because I'm using 34:45 such simple stuff I really don't know what I'm dealing with ultimately you do you have the uh 34:51 capability of making a small magnet and I mean a small electromagnet 34:57 um what's that what's entailed in making a 35:03 little electromagnet well you got the drawing I sent you that drawing of it oh oh um 35:09 okay let me go take another look at that um 35:39 we only have about a minute left on your side really on your side 35:47 four minutes I see four minutes oh okay four minutes remaining yep I I my my 35:53 vision was blurry anyway so uh yeah if you if you uh had a 36:00 a even getting a coil and putting a magnet on the back and putting voltage on it you can see what the difference 36:06 between the not having the magnet and putting a magnet on the back it doesn't really make any difference what size or 36:13 anything it's just uh I do have coils that somebody sent me 36:18 but their core is a powdered iron compressed that's fine 36:24 yeah they've got two windings on them um solid uh copper core I could just 36:30 stick up just stick a permanent magnet on the back you know see what it pulls you know just take a piece of metal and stick to it see what it pulls when it's 36:37 when it's on you know don't use a lot of watts and then put a magnet on the back and then stick it and then pull it off 36:43 and then turn it on and stick it and pull it off and see what you got you'll be it you'll be amazed 36:49 does it matter whether I put it on the end or on the side the end it has to be on the end it has 36:55 to go through it oh okay if you put it on the side you get nothing yeah I've energized them 37:02 with a nine volt battery yes that'll be fine okay yeah I was doing uh pmh experiments to 37:09 see if the core was appropriate and that's when I realized it was not appropriate for a perpetual motion holder you know Edward Lee sculling you 37:15 know it had no remnants to the core so that's when I realized it was probably about yeah those those powdered 37:23 compressed were used in telephones actually okay for a certain reason I guess having 37:30 to do with well they they were they uh did not hold a magnetic charge 37:37 right but why do you want that in a telephone line well because you don't 37:42 want the the you'll get a better uh sound effect if they don't uh stick to 37:49 the uh you know they have to vibrate that's true yeah so that would be high frequency yeah yes well just your voice 37:57 frequency anyway yeah yeah that's well that's high enough okay 38:02 um yeah so we got maybe two minutes so what else can we say in two minutes so I set up uh 38:08 a uh for your email I set up a JavaScript in um web 38:14 page in which you click on the link for the webpage and it pops out your email so that spammers won't be able to even 38:21 find that email okay that doesn't make any difference I set up that email that's dett.tech 38:28 yeah okay I set that one up just specifically so what I'm done I just erase it 38:34 oh okay that's why I didn't want to use my walls lock key because that is my normal email 38:40 I use and I don't want to erase that all right um what else 38:47 um so do you want to uh meet again uh oh yeah of course we'll we'll uh 38:52 email a lot I'm sure okay but yeah we can set up another meeting for a later date 39:00 I could probably uh do a YouTube I couldn't do another Channel I I don't 39:07 have unless we use your phone number um um to set up a separate Channel That's 39:13 exclusively for your stuff otherwise I would just post it to one of my channels 39:19 yes that's fine too okay you know it doesn't make any difference where where it goes it's just you know telling 39:25 people about it and part of it I want you to be uh exposed to this too you know so but yeah to hopefully understand 39:31 it it helps yes definitely okay well I guess 39:37 huh off we go all right thank you okay 39:43 I'll email you a uh some drawings and things okay thanks okay I'll talk to you 39:48 later bye